TivoWeb Gone!!

[pemills]

You need to make it executable

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chmod +x tar

and then (because it's not installed into the PATH) you should run it with a dot as the directory

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./tar

(p.s. also make sure it's FTP'd in "binary" mode and not "ascii").

Hi Rachel, thanks for putting me right, when it failed to un-compress the file I did a ftp copy of the full Hack folder on two machines, in binary, after a re-boot on one machine TiVoWeb ran ok after the copy process, on another I did the same thing and it refuses to run, now considering deleting the hack folder and trying the un-compress option using the tar settings you advised, strange how it worked on one and not on another unless it's something to do with the 'rc.sysinit.author' file, I'll check to see if there are any differences between the two.

Ok that makes more sense, there is no 'rc.sysinit.author' file on the second machine so TiVoWeb is not auto running, if I copy the details of the 'rc.sysinit.author' as detailed below into the /etc/rc.d folder and then re-boot would that work, do you think?

/var/hack/tivoweb-tcl/tivoweb
/var/mfs_ftp/mfs_ftp.tcl
/var/hack/endpad.tcl -s 2 -e 4 -sugqual 0 -sugeq -auto >>/dev/null 2>&1 &
/var/hack/cron/cron &
/var/hack/tivoweb-tcl/autostart.tcl start >/tmp/autospace.err 2>&1

Took a chance and tried copying the file over but the folder must be read only, typed rw but it came back with 'rw: command not found' although I know I have used the rw command on other drives OK

[millsb]

rw is usually an alias (shortcut) for:

mount -o remount,rw /

If it isn't defined, they you can (have to) type the mount command in full.

Be sure to set the drive back to readonly when you've finished:

mount -o remount,ro /

Brian

[drgeoff]

Took a chance and tried copying the file over but the folder must be read only, typed rw but it came back with 'rw: command not found' although I know I have used the rw command on other drives OK

rw is not a native command on an unhacked Tivo. You must either have added it to, or reimaged with the AltEPG iso, the TiVos on which it is working.

[mrtickle]

Not so much of a sledgehammer if added your customisations to the next revision.

That would be cool! For me though - well, I can't divorce my image and it's full of recordings, with no external storage available so it will be months at best before I've watched everything and could think about starting from scratch with a new image . Hence me wanting to have a look at a tarball, as that would be somewhat easier . DHCP would be nice but not essential, and I already take manually weekly tar backups of /var which has saved me a few times, so again I'm covered there in a way, albeit not as nicely as the AltEPG solution. I'm still interested in learning more about the AltEPG image, as so far from what I've gleaned I'm not at all sure what I'd gain from where I am now - but on the other hand if others can gain from me I want to share.

I did list them in this post (viewtopic.php?p=2611#p2611) but there wasn't any interest. I was slightly perplexed that no-one wanted to know how to reclaim the clips space. I haven't seen it discussed anywhere so I'm under the impression I was the only UK user who's done it! Perhaps 8GB doesn't make a big difference these days, but it got me out of a disc space crisis one busy weekend.

My changes fell into only a few categories
1. MFS text changes - typos, spellos, padding options
2. MFS image changes - flickering selection bar, squashed blobs in Now Playing
3. Binary patches to tivoapp
4. Tcl/script changes in "/". Only recently - from this forum - tcl edits to tclient to light up the right LED during a Networked daily call/GS
5. TiVoweb 1.9.4+later genres+LJ's changes+mrtickle's changes.

All easily doable to the current AltEPG images, I think... the only thing I haven't nailed is the disc space calculation for tivoweb 1.9.4's info+ module and tivowebplus's info modules. With the clips space reclaimed, they both got delete/free space/slack space wrong and in the end I hard-coded some values for the size of my disc to get it right. This would need tweaking by someone with tcl/tivoweb experience (spitfires?) I think.

[SolidTechie]

Wow - just Wow!

I missed your original post, which subsequently got hi-jacked, but some great stuff there.

For my 2 cents - I really enjoyed learning about the hacks and installing them all those years ago, and have forgotten most of the stuff I knew. I find the AltEPG disk image a breeze to use, so much so that I am considering junking all my unwatched shows on my remaining TiVo as, operationally, it's a pain having 2 sets under the TV, and not enough scart sockets.

My ideal solution would be to image a new disk, (with all the bling!) and then follow a process to move the recordings to the new disk, rather than doing it your way round, by adding bits of the new image to the "old" disk.

One of two things I was hoping to have had the time to have a play with, and write up a tutorial on - but alas - to much else going on at the moment

[spitfires]

My ideal solution would be to image a new disk, (with all the bling!)

I'd be interested to know what you think all the "bling" is?

I mean what will the AltEPG image give you that you haven't already got? (excluding "conversion-to-AltEPG-stuff").


(FTAOD this is a genuine question, I would really like to know!)

[healeydave]

By all the bling, I think he means all the stuff thats currently built in to the AltEPG image + any further tweaks we will continue to make (like adding some of MrTickles mods that we haven't already implemented) for example I think I already put the flicker stuff in.

Ultimately, in the future if ever one's disk crashes, I expect the AltEPG image to be 98% there to what most people would want to recover too if they didn't have a backup, rather than salting from scratch.
It already is for my needs, but some people use modules etc that I don't use.
I know for a fact that the list of features in the AltEPG post is no-where near concise, I have added stuff I forgot I added a while back

[spitfires]

I guess it comes down to personalisation then, e.g. TWP 2.1 allows you to customise the display format of all "rows" displayed on the screen (i.e. the contents of the ToDo/NSL/Search/etc screens) via the menus. (No I don't mean changing the theme I mean changing the actual content of the displays using an online module). I can't see anyone else wanting them looking like I do

[healeydave]

I guess it comes down to personalisation then, e.g. TWP 2.1 allows you to customise the display format of all "rows" displayed on the screen (i.e. the contents of the ToDo/NSL/Search/etc screens) via the menus. (No I don't mean changing the theme I mean changing the actual content of the displays using an online module). I can't see anyone else wanting them looking like I do

Yes, you'll never get the perfect setup 100%, because stuff like that as you say is subjective, but by having all 3 versions of TiVoWeb already installed in AltEPG, the user can simply enabled the relevant and the fine tuning of taste can pursue

[SolidTechie]

My ideal solution would be to image a new disk, (with all the bling!)

I'd be interested to know what you think all the "bling" is?

I mean what will the AltEPG image give you that you haven't already got? (excluding "conversion-to-AltEPG-stuff").


(FTAOD this is a genuine question, I would really like to know!)

As Dave says. all the extra tweaks.

My number 1 favourite is the self healing hacks. I knew this was possible, but way back in the start when I was learning about TiVo hacks - there was no clear indication on how to achieve this, and my knowledge then of *nix systems meant that anything involving remounting the disc in RW mode was a real scary proposition. I dare say I could do it now, but hey, I don't need to!

Coupled with DHCP - which actually makes little difference to me, as I always assign a fixed address reservation - but will make it so much better for the less knowledgeable hackers out there.

I like the preinstalled flavours of TiVoweb, and I may get round to hacking together a "switch" module to swap between them, but currently I run 2 flavours on port 80 & 81.

[pemills]

Took a chance and tried copying the file over but the folder must be read only, typed rw but it came back with 'rw: command not found' although I know I have used the rw command on other drives OK

rw is not a native command on an unhacked Tivo. You must either have added it to, or reimaged with the AltEPG iso, the TiVos on which it is working.

Strangely enough the TiVo in question is a 'hacked' machine so should have rw & ro on it, but as it has not or does not appear to have it how do I go about getting it on so I can write these files across to the drive?

[millsb]

rw and ro are usually bash aliases (shortcuts). If you don't have them set up then you can just type the following mount commands instead:

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mount -o remount,rw /
mount -o remount,ro /


[Rachel]

Create (if you don't have them already) 2 scripts:
/var/hack/scripts/mountrw.sh

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#! /bin/bash
mount -o remount,rw / \
&& echo "Filesystem mounted read/write" || \
echo "FAILED to remount filesystem!!"

/var/hack/scripts/mountro.sh

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#! /bin/bash
mount -o remount,ro / \
&& echo "Filesystem mounted read only" || \
echo "FAILED to remount filesystem!!"

and make them executable

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chmod +x /var/hack/scripts/mountrw.sh
chmod +x /var/hack/scripts/mountro.sh

Then edit (or create) the file /.bash_profile (i.e. ".bash_profile" in the root dir) containing

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alias rw='/var/hack/scripts/mountrw.sh'
alias ro='/var/hack/scripts/mountro.sh'


and make it executable.

[mikerr]

Never understood why it wasn't just in the alias itself, no need for external scripts,
that's how my preconfigured drives have always been setup (and the way Install hack does it).

i.e. no need to bother with all those scripts - add this to the profile

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alias rw='mount -o remount,rw /'
alias ro='mount -o remount,ro /'


[pemills]

Thanks guy's that certainly worked, if I use the Alias command does that get written somewhere to be used again or do I have to send the same command again if I need to set the disk to read/write or read only? and do I need to set the drive to read only when finished, what the downside if I don't?

One further question is how can you determine the size of a disk installed without opening up the case and physically checking what is written on the disk, can it be determined from the info supplied via the Info screen or MFS within TiVoWeb?