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lost connection outside my network

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:55 am
by jonmon
Hi
Some time back my TiVo failed and just kept rebooting. So I tried the kickstart modes and doing mode 52 seemed to work. This is supposed to emergency reinstall
-- this will act like you've received new software but will reinstall the existing software on the alternate root partition and boot it, this is what I read anyway. But when I did this I lost some funtions that came pre installed with the installed altepg. Also I lost TiVoweb which I installed again and that works inside my network. But when I used it at my friends house I could not access TiVoweb. What would have changed, as the ip address on the TiVo is the same and I checked my ip address on the web site for my modem after rebooting it. Could anyone give me some idea to get it working again?
Thanks for any help :)

Re: lost connection outside my network

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:13 pm
by DX30
Have you accessed your TiVo from your friends house before? The reason I ask is doing so would have required configuring your router to do port forwarding in order for it to be seen from outside your home network. If it has worked in the past I'd suggest going back and checking your router settings haven't been reset.

Re: lost connection outside my network

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:27 am
by jonmon
Hi thanks for the reply
It stoped working round my friends house after I put back on TiVoweb because I did the kickstart mode 52.
thanks :)

Re: lost connection outside my network

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:00 pm
by jonmon
Hi
I have gone into the router settings and the tivo port settings and that seem to do the trick, I didn't change anything but now it is working again which is great :D . I am now a bit worried about security, as I have never had my TiVo password protected. Could someone tell me how to do this with simple instructions as I am not very technical.
Thanks for any help :)

Re: lost connection outside my network

PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:11 pm
by DX30
A google for "tivoweb password protect" came up with some links, including this one from the book "TiVo Hacks"

http://anselmo.homeunix.net/ebooks/tivo ... ECT-19.htm

A username and password is probably sufficient but it also covers setting up a proxy with Apache if you really want to get serious about security.

Taking a step back however you may want to consider whether you really need to expose the TiVo to the outside world at all. If you have a good reason (e.g. you work away from home all week and want to be able to set recordings remotely) then do the above. If not the simplest and most secure method is don't expose the TiVo to the outside world in the first place.

Re: lost connection outside my network

PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:31 am
by jonmon
Thanks for the info
That worked great :D :D :D

Re: lost connection outside my network

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:37 pm
by jonmon
Hi there
I just wanted to change my password on tivoweb but not sure how to do it. I followed the instructions that DX30 gave me and that worked great.

bash-2.02# cd /var/hack/tivoweb-tcl
bash-2.02# echo Username = raffik >> tivoweb.cfg.hold
bash-2.02# echo Password = pass >> tivoweb.cfg.hold
bash-2.02# cat tivoweb.cfg | tail -5 >> tivoweb.cfg.hold
bash-2.02# mv tivoweb.cfg.hold tivoweb.cfg

But if I want to change the password, can I go over the text Password in this case, with a new name and next time I log in it will do the new password?
I tried reading the instructions on that web page DX30 gave me but not sure what it saying when changing the password.
Thanks for any help :D

Re: lost connection outside my network

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:08 pm
by mrtickle
if you're doing all that at the command line, surely it's easier to just edit the file (eg using "joe") directly? Assuming joe is installed, I would expect it is.

ie
joe tivoweb.cfg
<editor loads>
<use cursor keys to move around and edit>

use ctrl-k followed by Q to quit without saving if you make a mess
use ctrl-k followed by X to save and quit

Either way, after changing the config you also should restart tivoweb (Full restart, or a quit then start). HTH :D

Re: lost connection outside my network

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:42 pm
by jonmon
Hi thanks for reply
Not sure what joe is but do I telnet

joe tivoweb.cfg
<editor loads>
<use cursor keys to move around and edit>

you will have to explain a bit more because I dont no all these things about TiVo only really know the basics and a bit about telnet. :oops:
Thanks

Re: lost connection outside my network

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:45 am
by DX30
joe is the name of a text editor and it will let you change the password in the tivoweb.cfg file. There is an introduction to joe here

http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/ ... oe.NM.html

I'm not sure if you have used similar editors in the past. I grew up with wordstar so I find joe easy to use (many of the keyboard commands are similar). It's worth investing the time in learning joe if you are going to be doing more on your TiVo in the future.

If you don't want to try joe you can repeat the steps you did above, except changing "raffik" and "pass" to the new username and password you want to use. Then either restart tivoweb, or restart the tivo itself if you prefer.

Re: lost connection outside my network

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:27 pm
by jonmon
Thanks for the reply, I will have to look at joe
thanks again :D

Re: lost connection outside my network

PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:47 pm
by jonmon
hi again
I have changed the modem on my network and now it does not see the TiVo on my network. and it want telnet ether . but it does make a daily call. can anyone tell me how to get it working? the router is a Hawaii.
thanks for any help

Re: lost connection outside my network

PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:29 pm
by jonmon
hi :D
when I telnet it comes up with this
C:\Users\JonMon>telnet 192.168.1.66
Connecting To 192.168.1.66...Could not open connection to the host, on port 23:
Connect failed

C:\Users\JonMon>

and the modal of the router is huawei HG520b
thanks :P

Re: lost connection outside my network

PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:05 pm
by millsb
Can you provide a bit more information about your setup?
Earlier in this thread you say you're running the altepg image (which version?) but then you say you've done a kickstart 52, which will have destroyed the altepg config. What, if anything have you done to get the altepg functions working again?
You say tivo does a daily call OK - is this via network or dialup?
Does the tivo report its IP address when it boots up? (standard altepg behaviour, but kickstart 52 would have clobbered that)
Is your Tivo configured to use DHCP for its IP address? If so changing router is likely to change what IP address gets allocated, so it may not be 192.168.1.66 any more.

Re: lost connection outside my network

PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:28 pm
by jonmon
hi thanks for reply
I I have put TiVo web back on as that was wiped. I haven't done anything to get. it altepg. it gets the daily call through internet. I think your right it does have a different IP address now. but I tried that IP address that should be the IP address of the TiVo to telnet, and still does not work
thanks