Old EPG STILL Here.

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Re: Old EPG STILL Here.

Postby ByTheCringe » Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:02 am

Thanks to you too, Pete77, for clarification. Some of us need as many details to be spelt out as possible! :(
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Re: Old EPG STILL Here.

Postby 18MM » Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:44 am

ByTheCringe wrote:Thanks to you too, Pete77, for clarification. Some of us need as many details to be spelt out as possible! :(


Your and Pete77's banter deserves its own thread!!
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Re: Old EPG STILL Here.

Postby mike233 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:14 pm

As I was running out of program data and hadn't managed to get a successful dial up connection connection to the AltEPG number since the first setup call, I cleared my EPG data this morning and tried to restore my Tribune data via the 020 dialup number.

The connection was made, the clock was synchronised, my TiVo's status restored to Lifetime Subscription but no program data was available for download. I have tried this several times without managing to download any EPG data.

Any constructive advice appreciated. It occurs to me that the old EPG may still be accessible but has had all of it's data removed.
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Re: Old EPG STILL Here.

Postby ByTheCringe » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:30 pm

18MM wrote:
ByTheCringe wrote:Thanks to you too, Pete77, for clarification. Some of us need as many details to be spelt out as possible! :(


Your and Pete77's banter deserves its own thread!!

Are you mixing me up with spitfires, maybe? Definition of banter is "To speak to in a playful or teasing way". I wasn't teasing, I was being genuinely grateful. As I am for any and all efforts that keep my TiVo loaded with EPG.

Anyway, this IS my thread, I started it... :lol:
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Re: Old EPG STILL Here.

Postby Pete77 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:44 pm

ByTheCringe wrote:I wasn't teasing, I was being genuinely grateful.


That's good to hear. I think too many of the self proclaimed experts here often forget that most ordinary Tivo users need all technical matters to be spelled out slowly, carefully and thoroughly in order to be understood.
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Re: Old EPG STILL Here.

Postby drgeoff » Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:09 pm

mike233 wrote:As I was running out of program data and hadn't managed to get a successful dial up connection connection to the AltEPG number since the first setup call, I cleared my EPG data this morning and tried to restore my Tribune data via the 020 dialup number.

The connection was made, the clock was synchronised, my TiVo's status restored to Lifetime Subscription but no program data was available for download. I have tried this several times without managing to download any EPG data.

Any constructive advice appreciated. It occurs to me that the old EPG may still be accessible but has had all of it's data removed.

My understanding of your first sentence is that you successfully connected to AltEPG at least once. If so and you were able to subsequently access other TiVo menus to clear the EPG data, that implies that you had completed a guided setup from AltEPG. (Otherwise your TiVo would be stuck trying to complete it). If you then wish to revert to the TiVo server, perhaps you need to do another Guided Setup from it? (Using your proper postcode!)
Certainly EPG data was available from the official TiVo source when my networked machine made its daily call around 0845 this morning.
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Re: Old EPG STILL Here.

Postby Pete77 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:30 pm

drgeoff wrote:Certainly EPG data was available from the official TiVo source when my networked machine made its daily call around 0845 this morning.


The original Tivo EPG is only now available to non networked unmodified dialup only Tivos by entering the phone number 02079061000 in the dialup prefix field through the phone menus as Tivo have now shut off access via the 0808 dialup number as of Monday this week.

To do a Guided Setup back to the Tivo EPG from the AltEPG it is wise to also do a clear thumbs and Program Data as part of running Guided Setup as Tivo might not like finding foreign unknown EPG data on your machine. I have already successfully completed such a reversion to the official Tivo EPG from the AltEPG on a dialup only Tivo. I did this because the AltEPG has still not yet solved its lack of sufficient phone line capacity issues.
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Re: Old EPG STILL Here.

Postby The maverick » Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:38 pm

I have tried the ALTEPG managed to get through then didn't successfully get the data and have now successfully got the tivo official day on the 020 numbertoday through to 3rd July.
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Re: Old EPG STILL Here.

Postby philg » Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:03 pm

Pete77 wrote:The original Tivo EPG is only now available to non networked unmodified dialup only Tivos by entering the phone number 02079061000 in the dialup prefix field through the phone menus as Tivo have now shut off access via the 0808 dialup number as of Monday this week.


I think the way Pete77 has phrased this is confusing

I think this phraseology is better

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Non networked unmodified dialup only Tivos can only get the original Tivo EPG by entering the phone number 02079061000 in the dialup prefix field through the phone menus as Tivo have now shut off access via the 0808 dialup number as of Monday this week. Networked Tivos seem to be unaffected (so far) by the dialup changes


The original phrasing seems to imply that the original Tivo EPG is ONLY available to "non networked unmodified dialup only Tivos" - which is not so. I think it's a sympton of Pete77 not using punctuation
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Re: Old EPG STILL Here.

Postby Pete77 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:17 pm

philg wrote:The original phrasing seems to imply that the original Tivo EPG is ONLY available to "non networked unmodified dialup only Tivos" - which is not so. I think it's a sympton of Pete77 not using punctuation


Only if taken in isolation without reading the preceding few posts in the thread.

Clearly those who get their EPG through network card download will be only too well aware that so far nothing has changed.

May I point that even though I went to private and not state schools that at the ones I attend to learn writing in the late 1960s (i.e. primary schools) that formal punctuation was not fashionable but getting your ideas down in writing was. Can I also point out that I got a Grade A in my English Language 'O' level.

I would like to take this opportunity to nominate Phil G as head of this forum's Pedant's Corner. :P

I can also well imagine PhilG being the kind of teacher who would have enjoyed slamming his ruler down hard on the hands of naturally left handed children who would not write with their right hand back in the bad old days of education in the 1950s and earlier. :shock:
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Re: Old EPG STILL Here.

Postby IBP » Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:34 pm

Pete77 wrote:I would like to take this opportunity to nominate Phil G as head of this forum's Pedant's Corner. :P

Hope thats deliberate! I'm not great on apostrophe's but are you really saying there can only be one pedant in the corner? :lol:
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Re: Old EPG STILL Here.

Postby Pete77 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:48 pm

IBP wrote:Hope thats deliberate! I'm not great on apostrophe's but are you really saying there can only be one pedant in the corner? :lol:


If only PhilG runs it then my previous version is correct. However if multiple other forum pedants such as TCM2007 and spitfires wish to join him then it ought to be Pedants' Corner. But as I already said we were discouraged from worrying about such trivial matters or from engaging in bad old 1930s practices such as Copperplate handwriting when I went to primary school and instead the focus was on just getting our ideas down on paper. To that end at the Primary School I was at from age four until eight and a half we used to dictate all our answers and essays at exam time to the parents of other children rather than having to write our own answers down on paper. No doubt this dangerously radical and unproven approach may be largely to blame for both my very hard to read handwriting and my long and rambling literary style (since presumably when I was aged 4 to 8 I got used to the person I was dictating to translating what I said in to something more concise).
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Re: Old EPG STILL Here.

Postby milliontown » Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:08 pm

Just tried the 02079061000 number and got a failed to connect. (unmodified Tivo)
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Re: Old EPG STILL Here.

Postby philg » Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:12 pm

Pete77 wrote:I can also well imagine PhilG being the kind of teacher who would have enjoyed slamming his ruler down hard on the hands of naturally left handed children who would not write with their right hand back in the bad old days of education in the 1950s and earlier. :shock:


I tried to ignore this, but you really do have a knack of offending people with unfounded accusations don't you? Especially as I am married to a south paw and see every day how things that most of us take for granted are really irritating to her

And punctuation is not just fashionable - it's how you make sense of otherwise impenetrable sentences

Sounds like Pete77 and I were at school in the same eras - and I certainly had punctuation drummed into me from a VERY early age

Anyway, I've ranted - no need to carry this debate any further
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Re: Old EPG STILL Here.

Postby milliontown » Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:14 pm

The 08450885336 number failed too. Is it just me or have they been blatted?
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