first day of new EPG - thoughts

[mesaka]

So today,coutesy of a horrible tummy bug - I was at home with time on my hands so I set up the new EPG (using an existing image; network update). I followed automan's guide which worked exactly!

Some initial thoughts:

1/. I miss the radio information / recording option for sky digital. The issue in the past was the need to have a leading zero and 3 additional digits and TiVo solved it with an additional hack allowing stero recording made available via TiVo community. I guess that is for the to do list.

2/. The guide information is very impressive - I noticed that omnibus versions of the soaps (for SWMBO) are being captured by the daily recording option. They were seen as two different programmes previously previously - that would als be my preference now.

3/. Most importantly, I typically record only 1st run. Season passes for Eastenders, Doctor Who and House (not sure in the latter case) are NOT picking up any available recordings. That is obviously incorect. Am I doing something wrong or is there a bug?

4/. Thats all I've noticed so far. I will report any other stange things in this thread as I see them.

Finally - I am really impressed and would like to thank all the developers for their fabulous work!

[poppadum]

Thanks for feedback, mesaka.

1/. I miss the radio information / recording option for sky digital. The issue in the past was the need to have a leading zero and 3 additional digits and TiVo solved it with an additional hack allowing stero recording made available via TiVo community. I guess that is for the to do list.

Yes, it's on the list to look at later.

I noticed that omnibus versions of the soaps (for SWMBO) are being captured by the daily recording option. They were seen as two different programmes previously previously - that would als be my preference now.

Just to clarify: did Tivo previously see the omnibus editions as a separate series? Or as different episodes of the same series?

3/. Most importantly, I typically record only 1st run. Season passes for Eastenders, Doctor Who and House (not sure in the latter case) are NOT picking up any available recordings. That is obviously incorect. Am I doing something wrong or is there a bug?

We don't get Original Air Dates from our data source, so they are missing from our data. This means that 'first run only' SPs will not work. The Tivoweb Tracker module is likely to be a better solution to this problem in the long term.

Finally - I am really impressed and would like to thank all the developers for their fabulous work!

Thanks. I'd be interested in feedback on the accuracy/completeness of the radio listings (not that we can do much about it ) and whether we're including the radio stations that people want.

[Tcm2007]

We don't get Original Air Dates from our data source, so they are missing from our data. This means that 'first run only' SPs will not work. The Tivoweb Tracker module is likely to be a better solution to this problem in the long term.

We don't have OADs, but the RT data does have a "Repeat" flag in the stuff with Widescreen, Subtitles etc.

With logic like this:

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IF isepisodic AND isnotinDB THEN
     IF hasrepeatflag THEN
            SET OAD = "some arbitrary date in the distant past"
     ELSE
             SET OAD = broadcastdate
ELSE
      DONOTHING


You could populate the OAD field with data which would allow FRO to work as intended.

[mesaka]

So day 2....

1/. Everything is working well - I even managed to find an old 256 MB RAM stick and added it to my cachecard. I was shocked at the dust in there when I opened up the TiVo! I have cleaned it out (compressed air), and it may be just a trick of the mind, but everything seems a little nippier than previously (of course the clear and delete might also have had an effect there). Its also running a lot cooler (around 2-3 degrees) despite it being a hotter day than yesterday.

2/.

mesaka wrote:I noticed that omnibus versions of the soaps (for SWMBO) are being captured by the daily recording option. They were seen as two different programmes previously previously - that would als be my preference now.

Just to clarify: did Tivo previously see the omnibus editions as a separate series? Or as different episodes of the same series?

Yes - the titles were 'Eastenders' and 'Eastenders Omnibus'

3/. Its good to hear (excuse the pun!) that the radio listings on sky will be dealt with later - its a very useful way to capture shows and then convert to MP3 for me.

4/. I would value FRO information but I'm glad that the TiVo will work anyway. I noticed that there are now series and episode numbers in the description so maybe that might be useful in deciding how to deal with what is a repeat or not. Its a shame some kind of nested logic cant be used for wishlists (i.e. if title is "House" and description includes "S8" then record else ignore. Of course, that would only work if people keep their wishlists updated each season).

[CarlWalters]

3/. Its good to hear (excuse the pun!) that the radio listings on sky will be dealt with later - its a very useful way to capture shows and then convert to MP3 for me.

I find get_iplayer very useful for this. Sorry, a bit off-topic.

[mesaka]

3/. Its good to hear (excuse the pun!) that the radio listings on sky will be dealt with later - its a very useful way to capture shows and then convert to MP3 for me.

I find get_iplayer very useful for this. Sorry, a bit off-topic.

I agree...except as I am in Germany I am IP locked out of the iplayer...

[CarlWalters]

I agree...except as I am in Germany I am IP locked out of the iplayer...

Ok that's a bit of a pain. PM sent.

[gcobb]

mesaka wrote:I noticed that omnibus versions of the soaps (for SWMBO) are being captured by the daily recording option. They were seen as two different programmes previously previously - that would als be my preference now.

Just to clarify: did Tivo previously see the omnibus editions as a separate series? Or as different episodes of the same series?

Yes - the titles were 'Eastenders' and 'Eastenders Omnibus'

So, are the Omnibus editions the ones which are 115 mins long and the normal ones 30 mins long? The software lets me reroute programmes based on length -- should I say anything over (say) 70 mins is an Omnibus edition?

Does the same issue occur for any other soaps?

[mesaka]

mesaka wrote:I noticed that omnibus versions of the soaps (for SWMBO) are being captured by the daily recording option. They were seen as two different programmes previously previously - that would als be my preference now.

Just to clarify: did Tivo previously see the omnibus editions as a separate series? Or as different episodes of the same series?

Yes - the titles were 'Eastenders' and 'Eastenders Omnibus'

So, are the Omnibus editions the ones which are 115 mins long and the normal ones 30 mins long? The software lets me reroute programmes based on length -- should I say anything over (say) 70 mins is an Omnibus edition?

Does the same issue occur for any other soaps?

I think that should do it - the Missus says that there have been occaisional 1 hour special episodes but never anything longer except the Omnibus. She doesn't watch any other soaps but I did a quick search and both Emmerdale and Coronation Street have omnibus editions... there may be other soaps that do as well. Thanks!

[asfafa]

Do you know when this is likely to be enabled?

The wife has disowned me in the past when the TiVo doesn't record the omnibus episodes, so adding this to the AltEPG would be great!

Paul

[Teepee]

For users with limited disc space and not wishing to fill it up with extra 'omnibus' editions of soaps etc. My quick fix solution is to set a manual five minute repeating recording at the same time as the soap omnibus. Set it to keep at most 1 episode at basic quality and place it above the soap in your season passes. The clash should prevent the omnibus being recorded and the five minute 'programme' can be ignored as it will be replaced every week. It will have only a minimal impact on your recording capacity.

[gcobb]

Do you know when this is likely to be enabled?

The wife has disowned me in the past when the TiVo doesn't record the omnibus episodes, so adding this to the AltEPG would be great!

Paul

Sorry, I meant to set this up last week but didn't get around to it. I will try to sort it out this weekend.

[gcobb]

I have made the changes to move all EastEnders programs over 75 minutes long to a new series called EastEnders Omnibus. Unfortunately, they have no episode titles so the Tivo thinks they are all showings of the same episode, which means that a Season Pass for the Omnibus editions does not work properly at the moment.

[gcobb]

I have also done the same thing for Emmerdale and Coronation Street. The Archers already seems to be handled in the source data.

[tonywalk]

Use the date of the programme as the title